Scott is absolutely right. If we stay East and North, the traffic shouldn't be a problem. If we travel 255 to 270 to 370 to Fast Lane or that area, that shouldn't be a problem. I have posted same over at RNG and hope some of the driver's respond with ideas. If leaving at 4pm, I'm assuming an eat stop is in order, with let's just say 20 people, that will take a while to get out of a restraunt UNLESS it's maybe Chuck a Burger. They have the parking facilities, and I'm sure if I call them and let them know they would have the staff on hand to handle the load. HOWEVER, it is an all interstate run, not sure if this is what people are looking for or not. Collinsville is for sure a lot closer, not much of a cruise to get there though. Dave, you sound like you are familiar with Bobby's, is there an eating establishment nearby? Is there ample parking?