What should we do about............

Freedom of religion, speech, and association is at the very core of our existence. Cross that very small, very thin line and all bets are off.

I agree here Mark. I thoguht for some time about my "monitor the mosques" suggestion. And I'll admit to not being 100% behind my own idea for the reasons you mentioned. I just can't think of any other way of preventing these people from trying to kill us. They're taking advantage of the freedom of religion, that once they take over they will deny everyone else.

Steve
 
I believe in freedom of religion too, BUT when part of their religion is killing in the name of their God, then they've crossed over the line. Just like Justice Brandeis said: "Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can yell fire in a crowded theater." Name another religion which teaches that it's OK to, & you should kill, in the name of God & you'll be rewarded in heaven if you do so.
 
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A religion becomes a criminal enterprise once it breaks the law. You can be a Rastafarian and still go to jail for smoking pot. You can be a devil worshiper and still go to jail for playing heavy metal music too loud in the middle of the night. You can be a Hindu, but that doesn't mean you can keep cattle in your home.

Once these groups (or any group) preaches murder, government over-throw, planning civil unrest, or any illegal activity - and then take a assertive step or action towards that end - they become a criminal enterprise. That's how we take down street gangs, biker gangs, neo-nazi, white radicals, mafia, and crooked preachers that rip people off. So, going after these guys on our home turf really isn't that hard. But it's a very thin line all the same.
 
Hey Mark you have posted a lot within this thread, but I haven't heard any of your ideas on how to stop these idiots. Care to share your thoughts in that regard?
 
It is almost impossible to defeat a group that uses these tackicts and are unafraid to die. If we secure all the aircraft, they will go after easier targets like trains, busses, walking into crowded stadiums.

Remember we see all of this overseas, but not here. God help us we never will.
 
A must read - the american muslim

This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish and send it on to anyone who will read it. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities. Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:


Theologically - no . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia

Religiously - no. . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - no. . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - no . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no.. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no.. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , the great Satan.

Domestically - no. . Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)

Intellectually - no. . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. . . Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation....

Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS
in this country. - - - They obviously cannot be both
'good' Muslims and good Americans.


Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

Can a muslim be a good soldier???





Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!

REMEMBER THESE WORDS BELOW

Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.

SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE..

THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
 
David,

Perhaps we need to re-read history in regard to how the US Military successfully countered radical Islamic Terrorists in years past....and put those lessons to use today.

It worked then....why not now?

K&K

"HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS...... it worked once in our History...

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil."
 
Stop it! You guys are crackin me up & my sides can't take anymore! :D BTW It's a tad bit chillier up hear than FL. :(
 
How to Save the Airlines

Dump the male flight attendants. No one wanted them in the first place.

Replace all the female flight attendants with good-looking strippers! What the hell -- they don't even serve food anymore, so what's the loss?

The strippers would at least triple the alcohol sales and get a 'party atmosphere' going in the cabin. And, of course, every businessman in this country would start flying again, hoping to see naked women.

Because of the tips, female flight attendants wouldn't need a salary, thus saving even more money. I suspect tips would be so good that we could charge the women for working the plane and have them kick back 20% of the tips, including lap dances and 'special services.'

Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing naked women. Hijackings would come to a screeching halt, and the airline industry would see record revenues.

This is definitely a win-win situation if we handle it right -- a golden opportunity to turn a liability into an asset.

Why didn't Bush or Obama think of this? Why do I still have to do everything myself?

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton
 
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