Political Garbage

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Karl
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Enough is enough of that right-wing garbage. Take this crap to your other forums. I'm sick of it.
 
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The content you're referring to is all in the Paddock. We keep it off the public portion of the site. The Paddock is there for just that sort of thing. The Paddock gives people an outlet to speak their minds on almost any topic.

Why do we have a Paddock? So, we can filter and segregate exactly those messages to an area non-car related. As people are communicators, they feel the need to share ideas and express themselves and this forum facilitates that need. And, as these times have dictated - political discussions have become the water cooler conversations of our times. If the guys wanted to talk about fashion, it would go in the Paddock too. If they wanted to talk about fishing - Paddock. Religion, in the Paddock. UFOs goes in the Paddock. It just so happens that politics is the popular conversation these days. In fact, you're complaint (and I'm not try to poke at ya) belongs in the Paddock too.

Just like I don't read every e-mail I get from those e-mail chains, I don't read every thread on a forum either. When I see a thread that I'm not interested in - I ignore it. You can do the same too, or you can engage the debate. Win, loose or draw - nobody's going to think any less of you because we're all friends here. But, shutting down or limiting discussions seems to rub me the wrong way.
 
Thanks Mark. Karl, I agree with Mark, just like a radio station, don't like the thread, change threads and don't engage. However, you prove a point that just as you think there is right wing garbage, you could be considered as a left wing garbage kind of person....just sayin....there should not be an issue with someone having an opinion, as long as it is based on facts as they know them and not on hearsay or made up.

I have edited your post to remove the bad language just as I would on any other post.
 
I just look at "recent posts" or "todays posts" and most of them were just passing along right-wing hate mails. So it is hard to separate the benign messages from the vile, attack messages being parroted by those fine Americans.
 
Moved this thread so discussions can be had.

Karl, What you are viewing as hate mail or vial statements can only be that if you prove otherwise. You may view it differently than those that back up those opinions. Each side should produce facts, not just say it's bad, just because....
 
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karl do you really think he is doing the job he was elected to do. i for one don't think so just 1 example look at video from rep. tom price this guy is no dummy he was and still is a doctor you don't go throught 8 years of medical school and 4 years of residencey being stupid took obama and his familly 4-6 month to pick out a DOG ??? and now ramming this healthcare crap down our throats in 2-3 weeks if it goes through it will have many many bandaid fixes and destroy one of the best medical system in the world, it may not be perfect but what is. hey karl give me your address i will mail you a crying towel





WATCH THIS VIDEO PLEASE AND YOU TELL US







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD_YOlUBoIk
 
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Right wing vs left wing....these are postions taken on by an individual that are learned .
I happen to be a Capiltist. I pay my taxes(on time and in full). I provide employment for individuals so they can feed, shelter and educate thier offspring. I make MONEY. I don't rely on the government to give me funds. I work for what I have. I have been blessed in my career to have provided for my family quite well..guess what, it wasn't luck or the government that allowed me to do this...it was damn hard work.
If all of the above makes me right wing then so be it...What I am looking for from my President is leadership to allow me hire more workers and make more money.
Has anyone in this club ever worked for a poor man....do you want to? Well if the direction we are going contiues, we will all be destitute.
I do not like the "progressive" direction to socialism we are being forced fed by the present adminstration.
If I want to give you 1 of 2 beers I have then I will freely do so..Don't tell me I have to give both of them to someone else.
 
political correctness

Sometimes you are encouraged about our country's future when you see something like this. Specifically, there is an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term:
This year's term was "Political Correctness."

The winner wrote:

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

R. J. Wiedemann LtCol. USMC Ret

This guy has nailed it!!


:D
 
Amen to that. Hey, thought you were working on a truck this afternoon, not posting here :rolleyes: :D
 
as soon as i changed cloths went and edged doors, fenders , hood , door openings , came home to let dry went back to remove tape now to put together and paint next week end in booth lives about 3 blocks from me i take care of this guy hes a county cop
 
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How quick we forget

As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the "canonization" of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying what a "great American" he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear & not twist the facts to change the real history.

1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him.

2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can't count to four! His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former U.S. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea , where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received).

3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris , never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his "education" NEVER advancing past the rank of Private!

4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia , he was cited for reckless driving four times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark. Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing!

5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash, and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a "state secret" until in the 1980's when the report was unsealed.. Didn't hear about that from the unbiased media, did we?

6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine, and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Poucha Pond.

7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party, passing several houses and a fire station.. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying, Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car.

The Kennedy family began "calling in favors", ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family, before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident, Kennedy's "political enemies" have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pled guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy, and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills... a "token of friendship"?

(I have heard the real reason was that she was pregnant by Teddy - Luke)

8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, and funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors and is widely held as the "standard-bearer for liberalism". In his very first Senate roll, he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.

9. Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration, up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of "what's right". What a pompous ____!

10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than "great American". "A blonde in every pond" is his motto.

Let's not allow the spin doctors make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is. Let's keep this going for truth, justice and the American way.
 
I have empathy for the Kennedy family. The loss of a family member is traumatic.
Ted Kennedy is a prime example of why we need term limits in Washington.
I am for 3 term limits for members of the House and 2 term limits for Senators.
If all that MikeW presented is fact, what a shame this man was re-elected 8 times, and is held in great revere.
 
Oh no now they want to name the health bill after o teddy boy I guess thats when you truely call sh-- sh-- I think that fits perfectly
 
dopes on east coast kept putting him back in, look up what family did with his sister she was a wild girl they had shock treatments done to her then a labotomy she later died in a instatution, made their fortune in bootlegging remember nephew killed a girl many years prior i requarded them as nothing but criminals when john was in office we had the cuban missle crisis and he was beleived to be porkin marland monroe i wrote a term papper in school on these crooks i wish he rots in hell myself just more of the same political corruption at its finest
 
sound familar

"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

Adrian Rogers, 1931
 
Ol' country preacher

OL' COUNTRY PREACHER
An old country preacher had a teenage son, and it was getting time the boy should give some thought to choosing a profession. Like many young men his age, the boy didn't really know what he wanted to do, and he didn't seem too concerned about it. One day, while the boy was away at school, his father decided to try an experiment. He went into the boy's room and placed on his study table four objects:
1. A Bible.
2. A silver dollar.
3. A bottle of whiskey.
4. A Playboy magazine.
'I'll just hide behind the door," the old preacher said to himself. "When he comes home from school today, I'll see which object he picks up."
"If it's the Bible, he's going to be a preacher like me, and what a blessing that would be!
"If he picks up the dollar, he's going to be a business man, and that would be okay, too.
"But if he picks up the bottle, he's going to be a no-good drunken bum, and Lord, what a shame that would be.
"And worst of all if he picks up that magazine he's going to be a skirt-chasing womanizer."
The old man waited anxiously, and soon heard his son's foot-steps as he entered the house whistling and heading for his room. The boy tossed his books on the bed, and as he turned to leave the room he spotted the objects on the table. With curiosity in his eye, he walked over to inspect them.
Finally, he picked up the Bible and placed it under his arm. He picked up the silver dollar and dropped into his pocket. He uncorked the bottle and took a big drink, while he admired the magazine's centerfold.
"Lord have mercy," the old preacher disgustedly whispered. "He's gonna run for Congress.
 
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Who is this person?

Try and Guess WHO I AM?

I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in another country. I was not his only child. He fathered several children with numerous women.

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me. My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs & didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and I embarked on a new career.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics in my 30's then with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s. They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. That reinforced my conceit.

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I was a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered my ego.

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better and every poor person would be fed & housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was the free market, banks & corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I called mine "A People's Campaign" and that sounded good to all people.

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope,' together we could change our country and the world.

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities" like the Jews. My true views were not widely known and I needed to keep them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with.

I'm glad they didn't. Then I became the most powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.




*Who am I? *






I am ADOLF HITLER


WHO WERE YOU THINKING OF?
 
OBAMA and the AMERICAN INDIANS

OBAMA was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian
Nation two weeks ago in upstate New York.
HE spoke for almost an hour on HIS future plans for increasing every
Native American's present standard of living, since he has now
become the President.
HE referred to his career as a Senator, how he had signed 'YES' for every
Indian issue that came to his desk for approval.
Although President Obama was vague on the details of his plan, he seemed most enthusiastic about HIS future ideas for helping HIS 'red sisters and brothers'.

At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented Obama with a plaque inscribed
with his new Indian name - “Walking Eagle”.
The proud President then departed in his motorcade, waving to the crowds.

A news reporter later inquired to the group of chiefs of how they came to select the new
name they had given to the President. They explained that “Walking Eagle” is the name given to a bird so full of s_ _t it can no longer fly
 
Do you rember columbo and his beemer?

THIS IS GOOD

Ah . .. . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir. . .


Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean President Obama, Sir. Um . . I know you're busy, and important and stuff. I mean running the county is very important and -- ah -- I hate to bother you Sir. I will only take a minute. Ok Sir?

See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering Sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.

Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!

Oh, sorry Sir. I didn't mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island Sir? No? I didn't think so...

Well, listen, anyway, I can't seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be "Not released" or "Not available." I'm sure it's just an oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are -- I -- I have them written down here somewhere -- oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I'll just read it to you.

Could you please help me find these things Sir?
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available"
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available
8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available
9. Law practice client list -- Not released
10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
12. Record of your baptism -- Not available
Oh and one more thing Mr. President, I can't seem to find any articles you published as editor of the Harvard Law Review, or as a Professor at the University of Chicago. Can you explain that to me Sir?

Oh but, hey -- listen! I know you're busy! If this is too much for you right now -- I mean -- tell you what. I'll come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, You know? I mean, I know you're busy. I'll just let myself out. I'll be back tomorrow. And the day after. . .

What's that Mr. President? Who wants to know these things?
We the People of the United States of America !
You know, the ones that vote.
 
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