New Trailer and tow vehicle

Tim M

PRESIDENT, Member # 015
GCC Member
Location (City)
St. Charles
First Name
Tim
Last Name
Mauldin
Have been giving thought, especially after Eureka Springs, about a new tow vehicle and trailer combo. With track days becoming more rare for me, I'm tossing about the idea of downsizing my tow vehicle to something more driveable on a daily basis than my F-250. If I do this, I obviously will need to downsize my trailer. After seeing how well the Serpent Express trailers work, I'm looking at an aluminum 18' version, but open to suggestions. With that in mind, this opens up the possibilities for a tow vehicle. With the trailer weighing in under 2,000lbs and the car at 2,500 lbs, I figure a vehicle capable of 5,500 lbs or more should be sufficient. The TCC folks used everything from Jeep Grand Cherokee's, to an Audi Q5 to an F-150 and all said their tow vehicles did fine.

So, my options are:
Ford
- Explorer
- F-150
- Expedition

Chevrolet
- Tahoe
- Silverado

Dodge
- Ram 1500
- Durango
- Jeep Grand Cherokee

Nissan
- Armada

Audi
- Q5 (pushing the tow limits however)

A few others I'm sure. Just so we're all on the same page, these are the reasons for the downsizing:
- Need a daily driver type vehicle - F250 not very practical due to size and MPG in the city (I've gotten a best 15.2 in the city, but typically, 14.8). Linda refuses to drive this truck...too big she says. Difficult for Linda to get in and out of too.
- No longer need tow vehicle for track days necessarily. My track 'buddies' have sold their cars, so track time will be limited for me going forward. Which also means an enclosed trailer is no longer needed.
- Hwy MPG - Without the trailer, I'm getting a best of 21, and that's at 60 - 63mph....which I just can't do. With the trailer, I'm down to 8.5 in most headwinds, and 10 with a tailwind.
- Cost of Diesel - even though it should be .40 cents cheaper than gas, it isn't.
- Cost of repairs - any repair I have done, the shop wants to see and do an estimate for. Rich has sent me pics of the entire cab removed for a simple job on the engine :eek: Oil changes are typically around $120 due to the amount of oil needed.

Must have's on new vehicle:
- Would like to stay at a maximum of $45,000 (new or used)
- Must have a towing capacity of 5,000 lbs or more.
- Must have average combined fuel economy of around 20mpg
- Must be small enough to drive daily or that Linda can drive and get in and out of. F-250 is about 246" long. Would like to be under 200" total length.
- Must have backup camera :D
- V8 preferred, but there are some powerful V6's out there now too
- Preferably something at least assembled in the USA...if not that, at least where the tax dollars come back here.

Sooo, opinions? I know everyone has one....and PLEASE, PLEASE do NOT turn this in to a political opinion thread...if you do, I will delete your post immediately. Are my reasons enough to have a new truck payment? Do they validate getting a new truck/trailer? What other considerations should I think about?
 
...My track 'buddies' have sold their cars,.....

I resemble that remark. Let's see what next March brings.

Steve
 
Tim I am surprised you left out one of the best trucks from your list. IMO the Tundra is the best option which is why I bought one. Most reliable, and made in the USA.

I am not sure you will find a good tow vehicle that will beat 21 mpg. My Tundra is around 16-18 empty and 9 (@ 75 mph) - 13 (@ 60 mph) towing. The new small Dodge diesel will get 30 mpg if you baby it, but again the repairs will probably out weigh much of the fuel savings. With you trading trucks every few years the reliability is probably a low priority. I bought my Tundra 9 years ago and it has never seen the dealership since it left the lot. I expect another 20 years minimum from this truck. Any vehicle that won't make it to 250,000 miles does not make my list.

I spoke with a customer recently that traded his ranch's fleet of F250 diesels for the new v-6 turbos. He was not very happy with them and wanted his diesels back.

For the "made in America" issue see this list: http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201630245a4d0970d-pi

Only 3 trucks made the 75% mark:
1. Ford
2. Honda
3. Toyota

The same 3 are at the top for reliability. Check out consumer reports if you don't believe me!

Ever watch Top Gear try to kill a Toyota truck?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnVZXQD5_k
 
I talked to Mark E last night, and sometimes.....when you talk things through, it clarifies things. Mike, completely agree, totally forgot about that truck. To that end, I'm going to stew on this over the winter, listen to your opinions and go from there in March or so next year.
 
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