Need a little help from my friends!

MPTech

MPTech

Member # 032
GCC Member
Location (City)
St. Louis (south county)
First Name
Mark
Last Name
Patterson
Hey guys! Guess what i bought? :cool:

'93 SBF!!

93 Mustang Roller 302
GT-40P ported heads
FMS F-cam
Explorer intake (Mustang intake 58mm TB, Explorer 65mm)
24lb injectors + Pro-m meter calibrated for 24s
Ford racing wires + new plugs
distributor +MSD cap and rotor
coil
new water pump
brand new 3G Alternator 120 amps
Flywheel + new RAM clutch
Air pump delete idler

Less than 5000 miles on the rebuild COMPLETE MOTOR intake to oil pan!
Complete engine bay wiring (distribution box, headlight harness, ECU harness+ engine harness, A9L computer)
fuel rails
all sensors
Bellhousing for t-5

here's what he told me in PM's:
The clutch is brand new like less than 5000. Youll be getting the throwout bearing too. It has an EGR delete, and eliminator on it. All the gaskets are new, Distributor is original but unless you start going with some extensive mods I wouldnt bother changing it. The cap rotor and wires have about 10,000 miles on them. The plugs are also less than 5000, I had to change them for the P heads. The cam is new with the build, the alternator might not even have 2000 miles on it, that was one of the last things I did to it last summer. Water pump was put on before the head/cam swap. it has I would estimate around 7000 miles on it. I pulled it off and put new gaskets on it while the motor was apart again. Main and rod bearings are new. The motor was clean inside when we tore it apart and like i said it didnt need bearings I just put them in because I had them. The mass air meter is a Pro-m I checked. It has an air pump delete on it that is relatively new. It should treat you good. The cars been well cared for. I'll have to drain the oil for shipping plus its been sitting all winter, dont forget when you go to start it!!
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I'm so tickled, I can hardly work this week!

OK, Tom has been a HUGE help and great consulatant so far! still can't say THANKS enuf Tom!!) I asked Tom to take a look at the post and the information I gathered from speaking to the seller and for his recommendations. Tom thought it was a great deal, so I jumped on it. Then Tom offered to help me with arranging the freight/shipping to his place. (WHAT A GUY!).

So here's what I still need to work out and asking for help from you guys (no pressure).
1. Once it's delivered to Tom's place (in a week or 2) I need help transporting it to my place in South County. (I'm guessing a pickup is best suited for this, I know my Camrao IS NOT! :eek:)
2. It's being shipped in an engine crate (the guy's shop rebuilds engines), so we'll probably need a hoist to get it into and out of the transportation vehicle. Or remove it from the crate for transportation.
3. I'll also need an engine stand. If I can't borrow one, great. I don't have an issue buying one, but I thought I'd ask first. It will probably be 1 to 1 1/2 years before it is returned. (I haven't bought my kit yet).

Any help / advice / comments, is GREATLY appreciated.

Mark, I guess I'll need a topic in the "Build and Upgrade Area" now!! :D

Upgrade down the road, some nice looking "Powered by Ford" valve covers, Mark are you available for consultation, I know you have experience with this. (nudge nudge, know what I mean)

Thanks guys!!!
 
MPTech said:
So here's what I still need to work out and asking for help from you guys (no pressure).
1. Once it's delivered to Tom's place (in a week or 2) I need help transporting it to my place in South County. (I'm guessing a pickup is best suited for this, I know my Camrao IS NOT! :eek:)
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Mark:

Where's Tom's place? I'm out in Wildwood. If I'm not available to help, you can borrow my pickup.

Steve
 
Mark,
Tom's place is in Kirkwood. I work about a couple of miles from him and I have a truck and I know where you live too. ;) I'm sure we can workout a delivery given a day or two. Tom can load it with a fork truck, but unloading will be on us. I still have Mike D.'s engine stand but if you really don't need it for a year, I don't know that it will do you much good now. Needless to say, I'm probably about the most ideally placed person to help you and I'm more thn willing. Let me know what day it arrives and we'll work out a delivery. Congratualtions on the purchase!
 
I wondered when you would share the good news Mark, Congratulations once again! Dan is right about loading it with the fork lift here, I can put the fork extensions on and clear the tail gate no problem. Mike's engine hoist and chains or rope will make it easy to unload, just need Mike's blessing. Now you will be able to look at your engine from time to time and keep dropping penny's in the Cobra jar until there is a sale on Mark IV's in a year or so :).
 
Thanks guys!
Dan, sounds good, I'll give you the details as they materialize.
My plan was to put it on an engine stand until I'm ready to install it, that way I could tinker with it and move it around and out of my way. If someone is not planning to use theirs for a year or so, great. If not, I'll buy one and sell it when I'm done.

Thanks Dan, Steve, and Tom!

Anybody interested is welcome to take a look when it's delivered. (not quite a build party, but you're more than welcome to inspect it and your comments are appreciated)
 
Mark,

If I can offer a suggestion...

Don't put your engine on a typical engine stand with a rotary head. As someone who has over 30 engines at my farm shop and multiple engine stands of various designs, I have learned that when rebuilding an engine a rotary stand is the correct tool. However for storage, moving, tinkering, detailing, etc. you will be better served with a low fixed stand with castors. For the SBF you can find them for about $35. They are far less top heavy, take up less space and are far easier to move about without tipping. They still mount the engine off the floor high enough to do 99% of the exterior work you will need to do. You can even test fire on these small compact stands.

For strictly long term storage I also use the large oak moving dollies from Harbor freight that sell for about $15 on sale. Most of the engines and transmissions I have stored are on these dollies. You would be amazed at how handy they are and how much work you can do with one. They are rated for 1,000 lbs each. You can make a small support stand from 2x6's nailed together to block the engine securely on top of the dolly...or an old tire on top with the oil pan centered over the open center of the dolly works surprisingly well and if done correctly is very stable. One added benefit is that you can mount the transmission to the engine while supported by two of these dollies in tandem. Something you can't do with a traditional engine stand. They really offer a lot of flexibility for minimal cost....and when your car is done, you still have a couple usable dollies for other tasks.

The only issue with the above two options is that you cannot turn the engine over to pull the oil pan easily but that's about the only restriction and the benefits far outweight the one negative.

In the long run...unless you plan to open up the engine and pull the oil pan....you really don't need a traditional engine stand. Instead...Spend the money on a folding cherry picker when they go on sale for $99. That's a tool you will use FAR more during your build.

Kerry
 
Thanks Kerry!
I was looking at those HF dollies earlier this week, I'll look at them again.
Is the problem with the stand, that it's top heavy? or are there other issues with them?

30 engines!!! are you afraid they're going to run out?:D
 
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Yep, an FFR Mk4. I've just about got all of the other parts now, just need the kit! :cool:
gonna have to wait until beginning of next year, but that will give me time to finish planning and preparing. I'm trying to be patient!
 
MPTech said:
Thanks Kerry!
I was looking at those HF dollies earlier this week, I'll look at them again.
Is the problem with the stand, that it's top heavy? or are there other issues with them?

30 engines!!! are you afraid they're going to run out?:D
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Yes...they are top heavy and the castors often are too close together in the front even if four casters are used. If only three are used it is about as stable a a fat girl on a tricyle. Any little obstruction or rough expansion groove and the stand wants to tip. Plus being tall they take up a lot of vertical space. By comparison, the low profile stands often can slide under a workbench saving floor space.

Kerry
 
Engine Stand

Mark
I have a Heavy Duty engine stand that is appropriate for this. I don't have plans to use it in the immediate near future (knock on wood - famous last words)

You're welcome to use it - rental fee is I get the first ride

Give me a call

Paul Proefrock
 
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