If you are afraid to offend someone.....

Tim M

Tim M

PRESIDENT, Member # 015
GCC Member
Location (City)
St. Charles
First Name
Tim
Last Name
Mauldin
for flying the American flag, then please leave - http://www.captainsjournal.com/2009...-removes-american-flags-honoring-dead-marine/

And from a person that lives in the area (courtesy of FFCo$ra.com):
"I live just a few miles from where this took place. The lady that placed the flags was a family friend of the young man that gave his life for this country. I heard her on the local radio talk show call in before any of the news outlets got this story. She was very hurt and asking what she should do about it, so it was pretty fresh on her mind. She had placed the American flags along the road way in front of the BOA branch in question. She made sure she had placed them close to the curb away from the sidewalk and had left to do something else , came back and they were gone. The soldier had not come through the town yet at this point. She went into the branch and asked if anyone had seen her flags that she put up and the Branch Mgr, who was very rude to her, told her they were in the back room and she could pick them up but would not be allowed to place them outside the branch because it was against bank policy. Further investigation revealed that the Public relations person from Charlotte, NC said that it was not against any policy of BOA and that they flew the flag in most of the bank locations. Well, people started calling all over from the upstate of SC and said that every branch they drove by did not display a flag or even have a flag pole in front of their branches. I drive by several of them and did not see any flags or poles to speak of.

Not sure what you all have read but they had to place a cop in the branch because lots of people wanted to talk with that Branch Mgr. The radio station tried throughout the day to get hold of her and she would not come on to give her side of the story. The lady that placed the flags sounded very nice and was not mad at BOA but more put out by there representative (Branch Mgr) and how rude and unfeeling she was for the situation of the town coming out to honor a fallen soldier.

That's my take from the SC perspective.

Tim"

I very much tire of political correctness and who we might offend because of American traditions, morals, and values. You don't like the way we do things here, go somewhere else!
 
Love it or leave it
Our flag is a sacred represention of the freedom we have fought to ensure that we can say what is on our mind. Either pro or con.
A friend of mine in this small community I live in placed his flag upside down to show his displeasure with what is going on in America today. I expressed my displeasure with what he had done(he is not a veteran). I don't know if he has corrected it or not.
 
Couldn't agree with you more Tim. Too much political correctness is causing us to lose our way. I personally witnessed a woman in High Ridge screaming at a Jefferson County police officer when they had the road shut down for a soldier who was killed in Afgahistan. It was a disgrace then and even more when she wrote into a local paper. Thankfully a TON of people put her in her place real quick. Rudeness of this nature shouldn't be tolerated. Freedom of speech is one thing, but they should reap the whirlwind that they sow.
 
Driving East on 40/64 in O'Fallon today, there was a business on the North side of the highway flying multiple country's flags. Do you know the rule about flying other country or state flags alongside Old Glory? Well, they aren't observing this. I didn't stop, but should I? Maybe they don't know what country we live in? Never fly another flag, state or country) higher than your own.

Mike, refer to this website - http://www.ushistory.org/BETSY/faq.htm#q35
Particularly this:
bullet Is it okay to display the flag upside down to protest the war, the economy, the election, crime, liquor licenses, etc.?

The Flag Code states, "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." It is an unreasonable stretch to argue that the political purposes constitute "dire distress." Clearly this was intended as a call for immediate emergency assistance. We recommend that people who wish to express their political views find a way to do so that is respectful of the flag. Remember that to some the flag represents the government of the US and its policies; but it also represents the sacrifices made in all generations to protect our freedoms. It represents the promise of the Declaration. It represents our freedom of speech and our freedom to practice or not practice religion as we choose. It represents one nation in its stength and glory. It represents faith in a better future. We recommend that you show your respect for the country and for the flag and make your political views known in other ways. It is not illegal, it is disrespectful to the memory of those who gave their lives protecting your freedom to protest.

I learned on this website, for instance, that displaying a flag horizontally on a field (baseball/football) is not allowable by the flag code.

Quick, answer this question - When you are at a baseball game, what is the first song sung? Are you to stand at attention to this song?
 
Purple Venom said:
Driving East on 40/64 in O'Fallon today, there was a business on the North side of the highway flying multiple country's flags. Do you know the rule about flying other country or state flags alongside Old Glory? Well, they aren't observing this. I didn't stop, but should I? Maybe they don't know what country we live in? Never fly another flag, state or country) higher than your own.

Mike, refer to this website - http://www.ushistory.org/BETSY/faq.htm#q35
Particularly this:
bullet Is it okay to display the flag upside down to protest the war, the economy, the election, crime, liquor licenses, etc.?

The Flag Code states, "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." It is an unreasonable stretch to argue that the political purposes constitute "dire distress." Clearly this was intended as a call for immediate emergency assistance. We recommend that people who wish to express their political views find a way to do so that is respectful of the flag. Remember that to some the flag represents the government of the US and its policies; but it also represents the sacrifices made in all generations to protect our freedoms. It represents the promise of the Declaration. It represents our freedom of speech and our freedom to practice or not practice religion as we choose. It represents one nation in its stength and glory. It represents faith in a better future. We recommend that you show your respect for the country and for the flag and make your political views known in other ways. It is not illegal, it is disrespectful to the memory of those who gave their lives protecting your freedom to protest.

I learned on this website, for instance, that displaying a flag horizontally on a field (baseball/football) is not allowable by the flag code.

Quick, answer this question - When you are at a baseball game, what is the first song sung? Are you to stand at attention to this song?
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as you know by now i say it like it is if it offends somebody t.s. if you don't like my country get the f out please
 
mike w said:
as you know by now i say it like it is if it offends somebody t.s. if you don't like my country get the f out please
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I like it! Direct, to the point and polite. I aspecially like the please after the F. Nice touch :D
 
I certaintly hope you all are not getting MikeW confused Me(MikeW aka A Snake) because I do tend to agree with MikeW on most of his views. I just want to make sure the correct Mike is getting credit!!!! That said...love it or leave it PLEASE!!!!!!
 
i go by mike w you go by a snake hard to confuse how ever you want to put it we are a christian nation we speak english that is our language and the elected one from your state has proven he is a idiot over many times ( with very little experience ) i am sure you can agree with that what makes it great is we can agree to disagree i will give him 1 thing he's 1 hell of a speaker but so was hitler
 
Is the U.S. the only country that worries about being politically correct? At least the U.S. seems to be the country that is the most obvious about not offending anyone. The president of Iran is constantly screaming about something or other. Why are we so hung up on being P.C.? Anyone know a real answer to that one?

Just like I am sure you all voted on the referendum that made the U.S. bilingual, right?

See, I'm pretty good at stirring the pot!
 
My guess is due to our higher education system, the melting pot of people in this country and the media (probably the biggest next to the lawsuits constantly being filed). I know in corporate training that I've been though, this is drilled in to our heads twice a year. I carry it in to my home, and then to others. So, I'm being brainwashed :mad: :confused: ;)
 
this may offend some, please others

This guy is not afraid to be politcally correct.

For those who aren't up to date, this is directed to the Harvard professor that got arrested by Cambridge Police.


Fred Reed was a police reporter for one of the large Washington newspapers. He now writes a column which can be goggled ~ "Fred on Everything."


Fred published a weekly online column in which he got to say the things his editors would never, ever have let him write in the paper. His stuff is iconoclastic and various articles have probably offended everyone...regardless of political orientation.
So, with the warning that "This is definitely not politically correct," here comes Fred....




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Slavery Reparations ..........by Fred Reed!


On the Web I find that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the chairman of Afro-American Studies at Harvard, is demanding that whites pay reparations to blacks.
It's because of slavery, see.. He is joined in this endeavor by a gaggle of other professional blacks. I guess he'll send me a bill, huh? I feel like saying, "Let me get this straight, Hank. I'm slow. Be patient. You want free money because of slavery, right? I don't blame you." I'd like free money too.
Tell you what. I believe in justice. I'll give you a million dollars for every slave I own, and another million for every year you were a slave. Fair enough? But tell me, how many slaves do you suppose I have? In round numbers, I mean...say to the nearest dozen. And how long were you a slave?

Oh. In other words, I owe you reparations for something that I didn't do and didn't happen to you. That makes sense. Like lug nuts on a birthday cake.

Personally, I think you owe me reparations for things you didn't do and never happened to me.
I've never been coated in Dutch chocolate and thrown from the Eiffel Tower . I'll bet you've never done it to anyone. I want reparations. Kind of silly, isn't it?

But if we're going to talk about reparations, that's a street that runs in two directions. You want money from me for what some other whites did to some other blacks in another century?
How about you guys paying whites reparations for current expenses caused by blacks? Not long ago blacks burned down half of Los Angeles, a city in my country. Cities are expensive, Hank. Build one sometime and you'll see what I mean. Whites had to pay taxes to repair Los Angeles for you.
You can send me a check.


Now, yes, I know you burned LA because you didn't like the verdict in the trial of those police officers. Well, I didn't like the verdict in the Simpson trial. But I didn't burn my house and loot Korean grocers, or burn down a city.


Over the years blacks have burned a lot of American cities: Newark , Detroit , Watts , on and on. Now add in the fantastic cost over the years of welfare in all its forms, the cost of all of those police calls people had to make, for cells and jails and security systems in department stores.
I can't live in the capital city of my own country because of crime committed by blacks. Toss in the cultural cost of lowering standards in everything for the benefit of blacks.
See what I mean?

Now, I'd view things differently if you said to me, "Fred, blacks can't get anywhere in a modern country without education. We know that. We need better schools, smarter teachers, harder courses, books with smaller pictures and bigger words.
Can you help us?"

I'd say, "Hallelujah!


Hoo-ahh! Not just yes, but hell yes. Let's sell an aircraft carrier and get these folks some real schools and get them into the economic main-stream." I'd say it partly because it would be the right thing to do, and partly, because I'd like to add you guys to the tax base.


The current custodial state is expensive. I'd just love for blacks to study and learn to compete and stop burning places.. But is it going to happen? You may not believe it, but I, and most whites, don't like seeing blacks as miserable and screwed up as they are.


I spend a fair amount of time in the projects. Those places are ugly. It's no fun watching perfectly good kids turn into semi-literate dope dealers who barely speak English. It just plain ain't right. But, Hank, what am I supposed to do about it? I can't do your children's homework. At some point, people have to do things for themselves, or they don't get done. Maybe it's time.


I'll tell you what I see out in the world, Hank... I think blacks are too accustomed to getting anything they want by just demanding it. True, it has worked for over half a century. Get a few hundred people in the street, implicitly threaten to loot and burn, holler about slavery, and sadly, the Great White Cash Spigot turns on.
Thing is, whites don't much buy it any longer. Most recognize that what once was a civil-rights movement has become a shakedown game. Few people still feel responsible for the failings and inadequacies of blacks. Political correctness keeps the lid on -- but everyone knows the score.
Which scares me, Hank. On one hand, blacks hate whites and incline toward looting and burning. (The whites you hate are the ones who marched in the civil-rights movement. Ever think about that?)

On the other hand, whites quietly grow wearier and wearier of it. Not good, Hank.

On the third hand (allow me three hands, for rhetorical convenience), blacks keep demanding things. As I write, you demand reparations for slavery. Blacks in Oklahoma (I think it was) want money for some ancient race riot. Other blacks reject the Declaration of Independence, blacks in New York hint broadly at burning and looting over a trial, yet more demand the elimination of the Confederate flag, and the federal equal opportunity apparatus, which means blacks, want to sue Silicon Valley for not hiring nonexistent black engineers.. That's a lot of demanding for one month, Hank.
What happens if whites ever say, "No"?


Now, how about you? You've got a cushy job up there at Harvard, and you can hoot and holler about what swine and bandits whites are. I guess it's lots of fun, and you get a salary for it to boot. But don't you think you might do blacks more good if you told them to complain less and study more?


For example, if you want blacks to work in Silicon Gulch, the best approach might be to find some really smart black guys, and get them to study digital design ~ not Black Studies (as you teach). That's how everybody else does it. It works. Then blacks wouldn't feel left out, and racial tensions would decline.
Sound like a plan?


Just out of curiosity, how many hours a week do professors of Afro-American Studies spend in the projects, encouraging poor black kids to study real life sho-nuf subjects?
 
i agree !00% i had a young black girl working for me and she dated a white boy i asked her 1 day ( after we became good buddies ) whats that all about she told me most young black males treat a women with little to no respect and then told me a joke here it is do you know what mass confussion is ------ fathers day in east st louis. i was stunded to hear this after i had a laugh. she said the shame of it is that most young black don't know or see their fathers and that the black women is the strong one in the family after giving this alot of thought and talking with a good freind who is a highly educated black male he said she's almost dead on --- WOW
 
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